I am going to try and tackle both the Scripture question and the post modern question in one post. My answers will be entirely non-academic in nature. I think the guys have that end covered.
First:
"What is the Bible? How does it work? In what way is it meaningful (or is it meaningful)? In what way(s) is it true (or not true)?"
I was raised to believe that the Bible was just one of MANY spiritual texts that one can use to learn about God. Although I agree that there are good points in many of the world's religious texts I really do believe the Bible is unique. I have read parts of the Hindu writings, excerpts from Buddhism, and almost the entire Quran. It is my personal opinion that the Bible is the only truly unselfish text. The Biblical writers were trying to point us to God, not to themselves.
I believe that the Bible, in it's original text (language), is the absolute word of God. I think that we have likely lost some aspects through the translation process. I think that God knew most of us would need a hard copy of His teachings since we are such bone heads. The Bible is another proof of God's graciousness to us. He is reaching out to us in a tangible and incredibly obvious way.
The whole point of the Bible is that it is a TOOL God uses to help us get to know HIM better, to help us build greater relationship with Him and with those around us. It is NOT a purely academic text. When you take the intrinsic spirituality of the Scripture out of it you are simply left with another religious text. I really believe that Scripture is from God.
Obviously I think Scripture is meaningful and true. As a person who has often struggled to "get anything" out of daily Scripture reading, to truly feel connected to God, I know it is my own darn fault. The problem is not with God's words to me... the problem lies with me. MY selfishness and self centerdness and "issues" distract me from truly hearing God's voice in His words. The fact that I EVER get anything out of reading the Bible is truly a testament to God's goodness and His willingness to meet us where we are at... selfish morons that we are.
so.. now for question number 2
What does the 'post-modern christian' look like in action?
Well... I'm a post modern Christian. I look like a frazzled mom who is trying her best to teach her kids about God without sounding like a cheesy religious commercial. I look like an imperfectly odd pastor's wife trying to understand what the point of the religious sub-culture is. I have SOOO many questions about why we do church the way we do it ( churches in general as well as our church specifically). It is so clear to me that people crave relationship and yet so many of our religious practices prevent true relationship.
Why do we try so hard to sound perfect? Why do we act smarter than others? Why do we act as though we have the corner on truth? Why are emotions dismissed as the trappings of our flesh while logical intellectual thinking is upheld as the way to find God? And really, if we are all so darn post-modern in our thinking why the heck don't I fit in better?
I feel like half the time we are simply chasing after whatever the "new" thing is. Right now it is cool to be "different"... cool to "rebel" against the traditional church. And while I completely agree that church needs a full overhaul I do NOT agree with my generations penchant for simply ditching when things don't go their way. If you are not a part of a local body of believers in a regular and meaningful way than you simply do not have the right to complain about it. HOW you participate is up to you but don't bash other's honest attempts to serve God.
I know there is plenty to complain about but being a judgemental ass goes both ways. Christians are accused of judging those outside of the church but I PROMISE you as one who grew up on the other side that the judgement goes both ways.
We are human. We pretty much suck. But God loves us anyway inspite of our failure to really figure things out. I am an introvert at heart. I worship best when I am alone. The corporate worship experience is challenging for me... at best. But I believe that God created us for community. I know that our individualistic Western culture does not help with that. But still I try. Not because it is a "rule" but because I know that God has called me NOT to be a complete hermit.
I think that post-moderns are more concerned with social justice issues and environmental issues than the generations before us. I think we are striving for authenticity. I think we are slowly changing church. I think our natural disposition toward relativism causes a lot of us a good amount of confusion.
And I think that is enough ramblings from me.
Monday, November 17, 2008
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9 comments:
Thanks Tara. Well put. I like what you have to say about judgmentalism and not complaining and all that. I agree.
I was perplexed that you find that the church makes it sound as if logical intellectual thinking is the way to God. I would like to go to that church! I keep getting the impression that churches don't want much thinking to take place at all . . . but I digress.
I don't know if I have a full-fledged post in me on this one but I'll add one separately until Colin tells us to do otherwise. (Sorry Dustin).
My favorite: "Well I'm a post-modern Christian. I'm a frazzled mom who's trying to teach her kids about God without sounding like a cheesey commercial."
Amen.
There is nothing like having to explain the conquest of Canaan to a five year old and a two year old that pushes one in their understanding of how God speaks through Scripture. I'm trying to convince my oldest that the Israelites are not simply "the good guys" and the Canaanites the "bad guys!"
Jon, no need to apologize. I am just the voice of one crying out in cyberspace: "Make straight the ways of the blog."
Jon- my read on the "logical intellectual thinking" comes more from my personal experience. When I speak logically with arguments to back up my claims my assertions are accepted- even if not agreed with. However when I make an assertion simply based on my "feelings" I am placed firmly into the category of emotional woman. Especially if tears accompany the assertion.
I totally agree that most churches don't come across as "thinking" churches. But they PRETEND to be!! It is the intent to LOOK intellectual (rather than actually BE intellectual) that I find frustrating.
Like the women in ministry argument. The emotional aspects, the heart aspects are largely discounted. The "logical" or "intellectual" arguments are seen as the only ones that count.
I am NOT referring to the fluffy emotionalism... it's more the discernment, conviction you feel in your gut feelings that I am referring to.
Does that make sense?
Sounds to me like you're talking about intuition and instinct. In my experience almost all brilliant people are strongly intuitive and often "feel" a good idea before it can be articulated.
Hi Tara,
Thanks for posting... its nice to hear a woman's perspective here to!
I liked this part especially: "And while I completely agree that church needs a full overhaul I do NOT agree with my generations penchant for simply ditching when things don't go their way. "
I've been guilty of that and am currently trying to figure out a way to fit in again... that's partly why I'm so interested in this question here.
Thanks again.
Hey Colleen. You've posted on a couple of threads about your struggle with fitting in to a church community again. What if you think of it less in terms of fitting in, and more in terms of being a particular voice within your community? It's not just that you need the corrective influence of the local church. The local church needs your corrective influence as well.
good point colin!!! although i'd add that i'm not sure it is healthy to go to church just to be a corrective voice, unless we are ready to be the corrected listener just as often. it was revolutionary for me at my last church to see myself as part of GOd's ongoing story in that local church and to pay attention to my opportunities to be a voice, or to listen, or both. there was no sense waiting around for it to be perfect. i had to engage, as Christ has engaged with me/us.
"I'm a post-modern Christian. I'm a frazzled mom who's trying to teach her kids about God without sounding like a cheesey commercial." Can I borrow that line? Thanks Tara for bringing your female voice to this discussion.
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